in the watchtower ?
july 15, 2011 15 this is how they portray ones who simply leave after seeing the light.
but notice how before the article ends they move on to satan and his wicked world.
"No passion so effectually robs the mind of all its powers of acting and reasoning as fear."
-- Edmund Burke
Fear is the watchtower weapon of choice...it traps its followers in a never ending circle of trying to save themselves and everyone else...not out of love...but fear.
with the barkers .
and the coloured balloons .
see you in a month .
Verrry nice.....have a lovely time...
as usual, and should be expected, this forum is going to be a catch all for a variety of different opinions on religion., faith, god, and spirituality.
and of course, this can tick certain people off.
i have had help on the way to my journey.
AllTimeJeff thank you for sharing your thoughts and the essay...I have just finished reading it...something to think about for sure...
and of course, i had some fun with them... an older, brunette woman who obviously dyes her hair and could stand to lose a bit of weight, and a slim blonde teenage girl - probably around 15 - 17.... i started out by asking them if they knew how old the bible was.... .
(and unfortunately, i think i demonstrated that i wouldn't make a very good "undercover" bible study prospect... .
but they didn't even know how old - young - the bible was!!.
Zid...I have to take my hat off to you on this one....good job...
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in principio erat verbum et verbum erat apud deum et deus erat verbum -- latin.
in beginning was verb and verb was with god and god was verb.. .
it's 27 degrees celsius today = about 35 in my flat, which is about 95 degf for the americans.. .
my friends in tx say it's been over 100 degf for about 2 months ... i don't have ac, but a fan on me .... .
how do you deal with the heat?.
Its cold here in Auckland...got the heater on.....brrrrrrrrr
jw's frequently say that the first human couple were "perfect" and would have lived forever until they gave up perfection by their disobedience.. however, closer reading of the genesis account shows that they were never perfect, instead, they were designed to grow old and die, just like the rest of the animals.
jehovah has adam name all the animals, but finds that none of the animals is suitable as a companion (wonder how this was determined)?.
jehovah clones a companion for adam, and tells them to not eat the fruit of a certain tree, or they will die "in that very day".
So he had to eat the apple...otherwise how would he learn morals? And what sort of free will would it be if he didn't know? You can't have fee will if you only have one side of the story.
i spoke with my mother, told her everything, my doubts, my fears, my sins.
it came rushing out.
my mother is devastated.
I'm holding your hand while you go through this....
the contents of your mind consist of:.
1.the things you know.
2.the things you know you don't know.
Doesn't knowledge quite often come from error? don't we learn from our mistakes?
In fact...using this reasoning...doesn't it only prove that we can know nothing, except what we have proven by our errors to be incorrect?..
So maybe we can only know what is NOT true...but not what IS true.....
jw's frequently say that the first human couple were "perfect" and would have lived forever until they gave up perfection by their disobedience.. however, closer reading of the genesis account shows that they were never perfect, instead, they were designed to grow old and die, just like the rest of the animals.
jehovah has adam name all the animals, but finds that none of the animals is suitable as a companion (wonder how this was determined)?.
jehovah clones a companion for adam, and tells them to not eat the fruit of a certain tree, or they will die "in that very day".
2057??? Is it just me...or did you completely side step the issue? You quoted me and then went on to goodness knows where...
You have discussed how humans slaughter each other and you have gone into the world banking system and its possible roots and intentions. BUT...you haven't responded to....HOW the Lord God (Yahweh) appeared to Abraham and yet Abraham lived. (when the bible clearly states that NO ONE can see God and live).
Also...If Yahweh is the deceiver? Isn't it possible that he is behind all the other problems you mentioned...ie human slaughter, greed, world bank etc...It does seem to be his way in the OT...And yet this totally contradicts how Jesus depicts his father (God). Maybe Jesus came to save us from this god Yahweh?
Maybe Yahweh is playing this game...and we are the pawns
And back to the topic...Do you think that if Adam and Eve hadn't sinned they would still be alive now? If you do think that how do you come to that conclusion when they had to eat from the tree of life to live forever. Obviously they weren't perfect yet...there must have been a reason why they had to wait to eat of that tree.
